Original interview with Sir Roger Penrose: In edition of FrekvencaX, the guest was Roger Penrose, a highly eminent figure in the world of mathematical physics, often associated with Stephen Hawking. Throughout his long career, Penrose has made significant contributions, particularly in the theory of general relativity. He is also the author of the so-called Penrose-Hawking theorems on singularities, which brought him the Nobel Prize. In the podcast, we explore with him what is considered fashionable in modern physics, what constitutes faith, and what falls into the realm of fantasy. We also touch upon the question of how to 'calculate' understanding in artificial intelligence and how enigmatic brain physics is. Author: Maja Ratej Gost v Frekvenci X je bil Roger Penrose, zelo eminentno ime svetovne matematične fizike, ki se ga velikokrat omenja v povezavi Stephenom Hawkingom. Penrose je v svoji dolgi karieri pomembno prispeval predvsem v teoriji splošne relativnosti, je pa tudi avtor tudi tako imenovanih Penrose-Hawking teoremov o singularnostih, ki so mu prinesli Nobelovo nagrado. V oddaji se z njim sprašujemo, kaj je v sodobni fiziki moda, kaj vera in kaj fantazija, dotaknemo pa se tudi vprašanja, kako pri umetni inteligenci 'izračunati' razumevanje in kako enigmatična je fizika možganov. Z njim se je pogovarjala Maja Ratej.

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